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Wrong answer, John

Posted by Stevious in General, ... | 08.26.2009 - 8:09 am

Representative John Carter (R-TX) came to a town hall meeting at IBM in Austin yesterday, and I had the opportunity to ask him about why he voted NO on ENDA (employee non discrimination act). His answer was along the lines of he believed that being gay wasn’t an attribute that deserved protection from discrimination. So, as I often do, I wrote a letter to his office…

Wrong Answer John

I asked you about your NO vote on ENDA yesterday at IBM, a place that has had a non-discrimination policy for GLBT people since 1984. In your world, apparently, there are forms of discrimination that are OK, because that’s how I understand your answer. You’ll notice the room was flat silent after your answer. You disrespected all of us in the room, and IBM, who, as a company, has come out in support of a fully inclusive ENDA.”

Senator Edward Kennedy said: “The promise of America will never be fulfilled as long as justice is denied to even one among us,” when speaking about ENDA. “The Employment Non-Discrimination Act brings us closer to fulfilling that promise for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender citizens.


16 responses on "Wrong answer, John"

John
Posted on 8/26/2009

Good job, Judge Carter, thanks for standing up for the vast majority of your constituents who agree with your vote 100%! I was not aware of your vote until this popped up, keep up the good work and let’s take back the House in 2010 with 100 new congressmen just like you!

Stevious
Posted on 8/26/2009

hmm, spamming for yourself Representative Carter? It does seem odd that Representative Carter’s communications director isn’t aware of how Carter voted on this issue.

John E. Stone
Communications Director
U.S. Rep. John Carter (TX31)
Secretary, House Republican Conference
409 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Office – (202) 225-3864
FAX: (202) 225-5866
DIRECT LINE: (202) 226-6793
24/7 Mobile – (706) 836-7948
backup email: erwinstone44@hotmail.com

New comment on your post #1796 “Wrong answer, John”
Author : John (IP: 143.231.249.137 , housegate12.house.gov)
E-mail : erwinstone44@hotmail.com
URI :
Whois : http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=143.231.249.137
Comment:
Good job, Judge Carter, thanks for standing up for the vast majority of your constituents who agree with your vote 100%! I was not aware of your vote until this popped up, keep up the good work and let’s take back the House in 2010 with 100 new congressmen just like you!

You can see all comments on this post here:
http://blog.stevious.com/?p=1796#comments

John
Posted on 8/27/2009

Steve, I made no attempt to disguise my comments or hide my identity. Rep Carter’s vote was before my time with him, and your comment was a welcome tip on another issue in which Rep Carter has demonstrated he is right on target with representing the majority of his district, while your opinion remains in the ozone.
Transparency is obviously becoming the sole domain of conservatives.

Stevious
Posted on 8/27/2009

John, you made no attempt to disclose your identity and affiliation with Representative Carter. Posting as “John” appears to anyone other than myself as the blog admin, as an anonymous post. That’s hardly what I would refer to as transparency.

My opinion on this subject is far from ozone, in fact, HRC reports that hundreds of companies have enacted policies protecting their lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees. As of February 2009, 423 (85%) of the Fortune 500 companies had implemented non-discrimination policies that include sexual orientation, and 176 (more than one-third) had policies that include gender identity.

els
Posted on 8/27/2009

Indeed, “John,” Stevious’s views are hardly in the ozone. I am one of Carter’s constituents and disagree strongly with him on this. In fact, I’d love to see the numbers that the “vast majority” of his constituents agree that being gay isn’t an attribute that deserves protection from discrimination. Have you posed the question as worded to *all* of his constituents? It seems that instead right-wingers drum up anti-homosexual sentiment by talking about marriage as under attack, etc., etc., blah, blah, blah. This brings a subsection of the constituents to the polls, but does not tell us about the entirety of the constituency.

Regardless of Carter’s views on this particular issue, it is abundantly clear that you attempted to appear as just an average John posting on a blog, when in fact you are the Congressman’s Communication Director. This shows a real lack of integrity and transparency.

Gregg
Posted on 8/27/2009

A Republican liar, and his paid lap-dog astro-turfing to justify those lies.

Color me unsurprised.

Rebecca
Posted on 8/27/2009

I love how he ends his defense by saying that “Transparency is obviously becoming the sole domain of conservatives.” It makes absolutely no sense. It seems to me that the far right just insults the left whenever they’re caught being hypocrites or in an outright lie. I don’t think this works on anyone but the people on the far right with them.

Bronco
Posted on 8/27/2009

I learned something by reading these postings. I learned that the title “Judge Carter” was preferred by his professional Comms Director, more than “Representative Carter”. He had a choice on what to call his boss. I surmise that there is more clout in being a Judge than being a Representative. My marketing friends tell me all the time “it’s all about image”, and since the US polls are very low on legislators it must poll better to be a Judge.

Pandagon Reader
Posted on 8/27/2009

A communications director who doesn’t know how his boss voted on a particularly contentious issue? John E. Stone is either a liar, or an incompetent idiot. Of course, since he’s a Republican, it’s a case of six of one, half dozen of the other.

Gracchus
Posted on 8/27/2009

Sorry, John, but you can’t spin this one away. Man up and take your licks instead of trying to weasel out of this (and, honestly, you botched that, too).

Even if you’re not a former journalist, a Sidney Falco type like yourself should understand the concept of full disclosure of affiliations in a public forum. Not identifying yourself in that post was both unethical and unprofessional by most standards, even the low ones of PR flackery and spin-doctoring.

Fortunately for you, the nature of your walking haircut of a boss means that the only consequences you’ll suffer are some scorn and mockery in the liberal blogosphere and some good-natured ribbing in the corridors for getting owned by one of those lowly bloggers.

And, hey, even if that bigoted empty suit lets you go, you have a great future with FreedomWorks, the Koch family astroturf racket that brought us the TeaBaggers. So ya got that goin’ for you…

Evan
Posted on 8/27/2009

How sad that there are still such dead-end morons still allowed to hold public office in these United States. We should start requiring them to establish that they have solid relationships with reason and ethics before they take the oath of office.

Newsflash: Corporations (BIG ones, the ones that set the standard) have non-discrimination policies toward gay people, not because they’re pandering to some “gay agenda,” but simply because it’s “good bid’ness.” Being from Texas, I would have thought the congressman would be more savvy to the practice of letting “good bid’ness” dictate policy. I mean…for a company to compete in the marketplace for the attention of savvy, intelligent consumers, one of many things they must do is treat/protect their employees equally. Isn’t the market always right, Congressman? Isn’t it?!

Moron.

ArmyVet
Posted on 8/27/2009

If John was being truthful why didn’t he just walk up to Carter and tell him what he thought in person? Is he trying to tell us a Comm Director is best able to communicate with his boss via a third party adversarial website?

If that is not the case then why is he here reading and commenting on this from a work address on state time? Is he using the computer for personal work? Or is this action part of his job? He was wasting public money doing personal stuff, or he was engaging in deceptive commenting on an adversarial website. Is that part of his job? To make internet comments in support of his boss? If it is than why doesn’t he do it while disclosing his name and title?

The fact that he used “John” instead of his title sounds like he was wasting public money doing personal stuff, OR his boss encourages him to fake constituent support.

Zifnab
Posted on 8/27/2009

your comment was a welcome tip on another issue in which Rep Carter has demonstrated he is right on target with representing the majority of his district, while your opinion remains in the ozone.

Could that sound any more mechanical?
Now I’m not sure if John is an astroturfing troll or a full blown autonomous net surfing ‘bot.

ice weasel
Posted on 8/27/2009

Congratulations on becoming a national fool “John”. Astroturfing on the public dime. Now that’s something to be proud of.

John, not posting anonymously does not qualify as making no attempts to hide your identity. The absence of a last name and any attempt to identify yourself as working for Rep. Carter is a large sin of omission. It marks you out as a duplicitous weasel. Attempting to BS your way out of it in subsequent postings, shows that you do not understand or have decided to ignore the First Law Of Holes. All you have succeeded in doing is showing that you are a bullshitting duplicitous weasel.

John:

[nelsonmuntz]HA-HA![/nelsonmuntz]

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